Next version is TBS 2

Skrol29:
>[...] I'm working on TBS 2 which should
> be ready not before a month or two.

Rdw:
>ps, what features can we expect?
>and do you want to keep the development to yourself? or will you
>specify functions, input and output, so people can help you develop?

Skrol29:

The plan is not fixed about nex features. You can post requests.

>do you want to keep the development to yourself?

There used to be external helps on TBS, but now the central system is quite stable and works well. I'm now able to fix bugs and developp new features by my own. What would be very helpfull is to have more feedbacks before a new release and more hands for the doc. I know this is not easy to found. 

There is one function needed for a piece of time: the PHP strtotime() doesn't accept date before 01-01-1970. It seems to be an PHP bug.
If someone can develop a strtotime2() for dates before 01-01-1970, this would be a great piece of help.

pear.php.net

The date thing has been developed allready :P

But as soon as I have time I will look at it and make that function, shouldn't be very hard simple date time stuff :D :D

Possible that to be added to a list of testers?, thats if you need testers.

Ok. I'll be back to you when I would enough have moved on the new version.

Euhm I unfortunately cannot find the time to do the function :S
It also has a little bit more functionality then I knew of, but that still isn't too hard ;)

I have a php protection program that in theory can identify problems in your code (like the recently fixed bug pos1 -> pos - 1) because it simply will not encode and, even better, tell you why it couldn't.

I cannot simply give it to you because I bought it...
http://www.metalpics.ch/Metalpics/user/index.php?page_id=6
(directly under MySQL) for a short explanation

If you want I can test new tbs versions for you, test the functionality, the ease of use, and parse the code for possible errors. And perhaps I get some extra ideas for you like the onces I posted before
(centered navbar; st nd rd and th extention for date format; removal of navBar block when there is only one page)

Hey, your ionCube sofware looks nice, I hope you sell it well.

That's ok for your tests. I'll send the next version before release to you.

All new feature suggestions are welcome.
I haven't done the removal nav bar yet because I don't how to do it smartlly for the moment. The difficutly is nav tags that can be outside the nav block.

I only wish I would sell it well, but THEY do ;)

But I hope you won't buy ionCube, then encode tbs :P
(I know you won't because it increases the number of files needed to at least 3)

If you would be going to sell it, and use an encoded version as a trial and a script version as the bought product then I would buy...

For me personally a license for full use of tbs on unlimited sites is worth $100 at most for this moment. I would switch to another free template engine if tbs would cost more then that (at this moment, the value for me grows as features are added and I get more familiar with it)

Luckily I trust you will not encode it ;)

Don't worry, TBS is planned to stay open source and free.

I'm intersted of encoding script because of performance improvement.
If the encoder incrise the number of file, I agree it's not interesting for TBS.

TBS worth $100 you say!! Hey it means it a very good product.
By the way, I hope it will be selected in the PhpQuebec DVD this year too.

Well, take into account that I suggested a few thing I needed and they actually made it into tbs, that makes the actual value even higher...

the improvement because of encoding is actually neglectable. as a user I cannot tell the difference in execution times for anyting.

and the use of the php command flush gives seemingly faster results, without any encoding or whatever... (but i didn't check this, pure by guessing...)

you don't really believe in open source, huh?
well, i do!

to the tbs team: thank you for your good work: keep it up!

by the way: i would like to see tbs working with pure xhtml. especially the selected keyword should insert the 'checked' or 'selected in front of the / in the input-tag. furthermore it should add checked="checked" or selected="selected".

thanks!

I think I said quite the opposite....

Any news how far awayy the new version is?

(Just curious) :)

TBS 2 or TBS 1.96 ?
By the way, I need SQLite testers, if you know some.

I meant v2. Because I thought that was going to be the next one....
What is going to be in v1.96 then??

I don't know anybody using SQLite, sorry

v 1.96 will have a minor bug fix
+ SQLite support in native
+ XHTML support (parameter 'selected' is not XHTML ready)
+ MergeField() with a PHP function (usefull for multilanguage support)
It is quite ready, it just needs some test with SQLite.

v 2 will have all that but will be ready in several months.

So can you tell us what it will have allready?? (v2)

Nothing is fixed yet, so it's dificult to say.
About new features, they will probably be nothing big.

I'm studying solutions to increase optimisaton, simplicity and evolutivity.
For example: I'm studying different ways for new database, and new data ready support.
I also studying issues to improve conditional tags (tbs_check) which are quite slow if used a lot.

haha, ok, so it will not be voice activated yet in v2, that's ok

Faster is great to!

And coffee making is pushed back to v3.
Sorry for that.

BW, have you ever thought of having PEAR::DB support? I am using it all over the place already and having TBS open a new connection might not be optimal. Besides, DB support gives you instant access to PostgreSQL, Oracle, firebird, etc.

Haha, well, then It'll have to wait for v3...
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I use PEAR::DB as well, although I adjusted my file a lot for extra usefull functionalities. I think it would be a nice idea...

Any news on the development of the next version?

Version 1.96 is available now.
V 2 still in the lab.

PEAR::DB support seems to be a good idea.
I'm going to study that.

Thanks for answering, DB sounds really cool.